I know that I have appeared as a strong yes voter on these forums at times, but I am not opposed to voting No.

My hesitation is this: we don't seem to be at all unified in why we would vote no. And without that, how can we expect a satisfactory TA2? If we vote it down for 5 different reasons, what the heck is the NC supposed to do with that? Do you want them to push back on PBS? Contract duration? Pay rates? The gutted middle of pay scale rates? The lack of Redeye or A321 overrides?

What are we voting it down over, and what do you want the NC to do about it? I believe that when Southwest and Delta voted their TAs down, it was for very specific reasons. Lack of scope protection at SW and the awful medical policy at DL if you called in sick too many times. They didn't vote them down because the pay wasn't high enough.

I am not optimistic that frontier will come up with a satisfactory TA2. I believe they will punish us by not negotiating at all for some time and then try and pull some BS money shuffle to make it look better while not really adding much if anything to the pot.

I have watched Indigo operate and treat us for 5 years now. Nothing they have ever done leads me to believe they will agree to substantial improvements in TA2. And if I'm right, they will add so little to TA2 that we wont recoup our losses.

I could be wrong and I could be swayed to vote No, but I see this talk of "oooo 5% more in 6 months" and i just don't see it going that well for us.