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Old 12-07-2018 | 12:36 PM
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ShyGuy
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
wait what? That was not anti union. I just said it was the union that does not allow us to fly those kind of trips for fatigue mitigation.

My point about what is efficient for us is not efficient for the company was to make sure people know the difference. Why, because they don't.

Our trips are very inefficient for the pilots, not for the company. I do not like that and will work to get it changed.

I wan't min calendar day back, WOCL override, better vacation, holiday pay and all open time set to premium.

What do you wan't? sit around and complain all day?

I don’t want the Alaska union to arbitrarily decide on a number like 5:51 block or greater is too much to do another flight after, but a 5:50 is okay. Part 117 allows a 9 hr flight time day, then barring any company buffer (not union) we should have trips that reflect that. I just did BOS-LAX and followed with LAX-SFO. Total block was over 8 hrs. No, it wasn’t that hard.

Here’s the problem on this subject on APC in the past, there were several SEA pilots that wrote they didn’t want to do an early 6am show on the east coast to transcon to the west coast and another leg, because to them an early east coast wake up is minus 3 hrs body clock time. So a 3am start for 2 legs is apparently too much.

Which brings back the point they shouldn’t have closed the NY base. But now that they did, let’s put on boy pants and start doing efficient trips. Who is this “fatigue mitigation committee” and what data have they used to come up with the 5:51 rule to “improve” safety?
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