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Old 12-12-2018 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
It’s the difference between a professional publication, and APC’s “My Dad could beat up your dad!”


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Can you point me to a "professional publication" where someone can see everything, from outliers to regulars to lazies to players in the airline world? I've been following the various ALPA NC contract comparisons and while a tad more useful and detailed than APC calculators, don't tell the whole story, something that would have been useful to know from the outside looking in. For example, how do you quantify second-year rate for first-year guys? How would you explain that to a prospective new hire who just might be taking a pretty hefty paycut to come here and is trying to financially plan for it? What are the end results? What about legacies and widebodies? What are the realistic credit hours for those guys? Senior-manning or green-slips there? How about trip drops and compensation? A real-world ratio of work vs. pay vs. APC calculators?

How about explaining the value of profit sharing in the overall scheme of things? A line pilot just may be told... "Look at your proposed hourly rates... what are you complaining about?? Vote YES!" Don't you think it helps pattern bargaining for a Joe Q. Lineswine voter to have some end-result data from elsewhere?

No published contract comparison publication that I've seen breaks this down into that kind of a detail. The end results from individual pilots do.
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