When you factor in 4-5 years overseas in CDG or HKG getting only another 2700 a month, plus the associated headaches being an expat, plus being junior for a while when you finally return to the states, I would say FDX is not in the mix unless you are wanting that kind of life. So--stabilty chasers--I'd put UPS first. However, for those who love less circadian disruption, enjoy the legacy airline life, or want to live in a domicle city.....it may no longer be that UPS and FDX are at the top of EVERYONE'S list. Tops for some--but CAL will probably be tops for a guy wanted to upgrade quickly, and DAL for guy who wants travel passes for momma and wants to live in ATL or SLC. It will always be a very realtive discussion....