Originally Posted by theUpsideDown

You all just run your mouths and make wild assurances that haven't come true and then you get ****y when someone points out the facts. I didnt say the pass rate would never be better. I think theres a good argument that the DGI rate would get better, i think itll be slower over a number of years, but the sooner the better.

Maybe the internet, and certainly APC, just isnt a place for facts. No one here wants endeavor guys to do badly, i think 64% is soft, and since we have some data isn't it time to readjust some of the expectations youre putting out. I'm just trying to point out facts, it doesnt seem like you two can defend your stance without cult like assertions denying what facts we have.