Originally Posted by
Bucknut
No one should be entering anything in your logbook but you. Yes an Instructor or Check Airman can sign your logbook or enter an endorsement but no where in is written that they are required or should enter a "checkride or end of course result " in your logbook. If someone else on this forum can enlighten me on this please do. This crap has been happening for a long time and needs to be addressed!!!
There will be an entry for final checkride prep dual instruction prior to sign off. Doesn't *have* to say it's checkride prep but there's typically something to that effect. It will be logged in detail in the schools 121 records, that's required.
Then the student will typically log the *incomplete* EOC, at least logging the flight time. In 141 it might get logged as dual given, in 61 it will not.
Then there will be remedial training prior to the next sign off, *typically* also logged as such.
If you know the date the cert was issued, you can backtrack fairly easily. You're right that the logbook doesn't *have* to include all of that detail in 141, but it inevitably will. Instructors will CYA, I sure as hell would. If a student ever refused to let me document training in his book, that would be the last training he ever got from me. Neither my logbook, not any student's of mine, will ever serve as "documentation" that I omitted training. If it's not in writing, the lawyers will say it never happened.