Originally Posted by Thedude86

Nothing. As long as classes are full and they’re forcing upgrades there’s absolutely no incentive for the company to do anything. We’re also so fat on pilots right now we could probably get by for 4-6 months even if classes completely dried up to zero new hires.



That leads me to another topic thats probably worth its own thread. From the math I’ve done a new hire at PSA today will be on reserve almost 2 years.

The people getting the Round 1 lines now have been with the company between 9 to 14 months depending on base, and this number has been increasing every month. The issue is we’ve hired a lot more pilots than whats required for the amount of airplanes we’ve been acquiring. Right now we have around 450 total round 1 lines for each seat. Of course we also have round 2 lines but that number is very small and might only change the numbers by 1-2 months.

So here’s the math... 450 total lines to be spread out among the 900 first officers we have at the company currently. So simple math says you need to move up 450 spots to have the seniority to hold a line. I always email the seniority list to myself every month when it comes out. Now when you first get hired you might move up 30 spots a month, but eventually it slows to about 20, and then 15, and so on and so on. I went back to the seniority list last January and also January 2016 and did some rough calculations based on these trends and it took about 2 years for the most junior pilots to move up 450 spots.

Ill be generous and say attrition will probably pick up and we will still grow by just a few more airplanes, but even with all of that factored in my math is showing a new hire today will be on reserve 16-22 months. 16 for the junior outstations and about 22 months or more for CLT and I feel these numbers are being generous. If you’re a fellow PSA pilot you can go to BSL and go to the data section and see that for the past year time on reserve has been increasing every month.