Originally Posted by
Pedro4President
So a couple things..... I know most of you here weren't around back in 2014-2015 so most of you have no idea what you are asking for. Stagnation is terrible. You think it's bad now with these reserve rules? It's nothing compared to being on the bottom of the reserve list for years with these rules. Telling people not to come here isn't going to make the company suffer. It's going to make the guys on the bottom of the reserve list suffer.
Those of you hired from 2016 on were offered a shinny new jet, a 20k bonus and/or a few extra dollars per month and you came running when no real substantive contractual gains were attained. The company stopping reserve negotiations isn't a change in the company's behavior. They have never given the pilots anything unless they absolutely had to.
Don't advocate for people not coming here when you chose to come here under the same conditions. One could argue that Envoy is better than it was when many of you got hired. It's just a bit hypocritical of you. Envoy isn't the best but it is definitely not the worst.
I respectfully disagree. Since a new hire came on staff in 2016 lots has changed. Endeavor pay raise, republic pay raise, spirit pay raise, SkyWest pay raise, pretty sure Mesa got something, forced upgrades to New York, many other airlines getting new contracts. Son and so on.
Not to mention a new hire coming here in 2016 was looking at a six year flow, not a 10 year flow.
It is absolute advisable to tell people to not come here until things change. It does work, hence the company in mid 2016 upping pay and offering bonuses. Suddenly recruitment exploded.
Apathy is the worst.