Originally Posted by Mattio

Ok, I had a 74% chance of being right ;-) and I'm not adamant enough on this forum to keep track of where guys stood on the contract... In the end, it's always the bottom line for this company. They might fix their training problem by outsourcing, buying more sims, hiring more instructors etc. If it's cheaper for them to raise 190 pay, they may do it. If you try to get them to bundle things with a 190 pay raise, it may not be cheaper any more or they may not be able to raise the 190 pay enough to get guys to stay on it and, thus, they wouldn't do it. I can see both sides of the argument when guys do or don't care what affect their contract vote has on the rest of the industry, however, if you have a chance to let guys in your own pilot group grab a bigger slice of the pie then that helps the whole group. At the next negotiations, all those slices of pie will be on the table and we SHOULD get to keep them, albeit divied up differently based on what we want as a group then. Not to mention we would probably be year into this CBA minimum before any 190 raise and you push it back with negotiations, looking for more then we just keep getting closer to the next CBA. (I was a No voter too but I don't see the upside of turning down a juicy raise for the 190.) Also, I have been here long enough to know that the 190's aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Things are going to happen slow and get delayed as usual. We'll check back in 2030 ;-)