Originally Posted by symbian simian

Yes you do. The legacies carriers in the EU still have defined benefit plans. Most of the EU regionals are on the legacy seniority list. KLM retirement plan is you stop working at age 57 and get 65% for the rest of your life. Not something I will get. Be proud of flying for $20/hr at a crappy regional and having to wait 9 years to make a decent pay check.
Selling out half the domestic flying and promoting "Flying the line", priceless