Originally Posted by
billsaw
Obviously your buddy doesn't "treat them well in all aspects" for the experience level/pay/work required. If you fly a King Air and someone offers you 150k a year to galavant around the world in a G650 with no time off that may look appealing. But to those of us with the experience under our belt it's horrible. Not saying that was his deal there just that it's all relative based on your perspective.
Everyone has their own expectations on what they should be paid and management has their own on what should be paid. Capitalism then steps in and sorts it out.
At the moment that figure is getting larger and better QOL for the pilots and management/owners are struggling to accept that. Nobody, and I mean nobody with a half a brain is gonna quit a "good/great" (according to your buddies perspective on standards) job like that on the first trip in the middle of a trip with no notice. If they do it's one of two things. One your buddy isn't taking care of people as well as he thinks or they have mental issues. Then that speaks more toward your buddies (or his companies) discretion in hiring someone to operate a 65 million dollar jet with a billionaire onboard and dropping 100+ on a type up front.
Lets face it they need to be paying experienced pilots in the neighborhood of 250-300k and them working a hard time off schedule not some mickey mouse schedule where your off until your not kinda deal. And by schedule I mean half the time off. Like 1 week on 1 week off or 2 weeks on 2 weeks off not we will give you 8 days off a month..... When wee feel like it. And the sky is blue. And we see pigs flying. And oh you will know your schedule 2 weeks in advance until you don't.... That don't fly no more. At least for any pilots that are actual qualified to do that job and have any self respect. If they don't wanna do that I would be calling Flight Safety trying to get the volume discount cause that's what they will need.
Just think if you buddy treats his guys "well in all aspects" how "well" the pilot is being treated now that would cause him to do what he did. Unless of course he is crazy in which case they should look into people more.
It's kinda funny. All the time I hear of job offers being asked of me and my fellow coworkers. "Hey come work for us". Ok what does it pay and what's the schedule are the two main questions? Those answers most of the time are laughable but sometimes get close to reasonable. So when you politely say no then at some point they ask well what do you want? So I tell them. It is to much for one reason or another and the owner or company "will never do that". Yea it's those same people that instead of spending the money on a good qualified pilot they will blow money on training and turnover. Their choice.
I appreciate the post, but respectfully disagree with your assumption of my friends practices. The schedule, pay and bennies are in the top 5% for that airframe, nowhere near “average”. Just because I didn’t say “excellent / stellar” doesn’t imply anything. As far as your point of hiring the right people, even the craziest and most disrupting individual can get through the cracks. I was on the hiring board for one of my companies and interviewed hundreds of candidates. Let’s just say this, people are great actors when they want to be and sometimes it’s very hard to decipher the bull****.
DH