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Old 02-23-2019, 07:11 PM
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Larry in TN
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Also you really can't argue against the data - less cost (by a significant margin) and longer lifespans.
Here's a Canadian, talking to Canadians, about the problems of the Canadian healthcare system.

https://business.financialpost.com/o...ked-last-again

Lifespans don't necessarily equate to healthcare quality. Diet, lifestyle, accidental death rates, murder rates, etc. all go into the lifespan statistics but don't have anything at all to do with healthcare quality. A better metric for comparison is specific outcomes. For example, how long does the average cancer patient live after diagnosis under each system?

Here's an article with that data.

https://www.firstthings.com/blogs/fi...ope-and-canada

Here's a video (by a Canadian) that demonstrates the challenges of Canada's system.

https://youtu.be/q2jijuj1ysw

Ben Shapiro has a good point about the US healthcare system. He says that it has the worst parts of both socialized and private systems. It has too much government control and influence for market forces to work as they should and it doesn't have the universality that would normally be part of a socialized system. The result is that, while the medical care itself is top notch, it is too expensive.

In other words, those who argue against a Canadian-style system aren't necessarily saying that they like the current system as it is today. Rather, they prefer more free market in the system so that competition and price transparency could provide the incentives for lower prices and improved efficiency that is found in areas of the medical system that aren't typically covered by insurance and government programs--most notably, LASIK and cosmetic procedures where the costs have plummeted while the quality of outcome has soared.
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