Originally Posted by Otters

Safety issue, sorry no. A learning issue, most definitely. Look, when we have a wide body fleet well in excess of 100 airplanes flying around the world on the back side of the clock , not to mention a large number of narrow bodies flying coast to coast at night, it’s a little hard to defend a group from training at less than ideal times for a couple of hours. It is a safety issue out in the real world and we’ve done it for decades and managed quite well. Let’s all man up a little on this please.