Originally Posted by
OhSnapAF
NJA does 6 on 3 off 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Who in NJA does that? We are not talking 6/3/6/3/6/3 etc., right?
I guess with certain schedules and/or additional days you could end up doing 6/3 sometimes (basically by choice), but the vast majority at NJA are on the 7/7, correct?
7/7 (NJA) equates to around 15 days worked per calendar month or 182 days per year worked (minus vacation) while 6/5 (NJE) equates to around 17 days worked/month (in fact our contract says 200 days/year minus vacation).
Since NJE is effectively limited to an average, not maximum) duty day of ten hours, due to the 60 hours per tour limit, and you guys aren't, it's quite possible that you guys do work more duty hours overall than we do. But not by as much as suggested by GeeWizz, when looked at over a longer period.
We also make significantly less money, though. Most CPTs are on 120 to 130k Euros/year while most FOs make around 80k. That's after ten to 15 years in the Company.
Some of us are on 28 days vacation but most aren't, even though almost everyone has been here for more than 10 years. The median seniority is around 13 years.
However, when we take six or seven days vacation we only get two days off at either end of the vacation. Basically vacation disrupts our roster pattern (schedule), and not in our favor. Your system is much better, I think.
You guys have more schedule choices than we do.
We are unionized but membership is not nearly as high as on your side. Non-members don't pay a service fee and pilots are cheap... Also the union is a volunteer-run, low cost, online, in-house union with no paid staff or offices. But we have the basic protections of a CBA and have recently been able to get upgrades and fleeting w(no by seniority) into the CBA. We also now have a seniority based redundancy policy although sadly the furlough system basically doesn't exist in Europe.
It's interesting that in many ways the EU arm of NJ has lower social and contractual standards than the US based operation. And Europe is supposed to be pro-worker etc. It's not really. At least not in the UK where our contracts are based. But that's a whole different story.
Sorry for the slight thread drift to include NJE. Happy to start a new topic if people want me to.