Originally Posted by
Adlerdriver
Pin,
To start off, it’s A-d-l-e-r. What say we work on the small stuff we might be able to agree on first.
I just wanted to point out that I think you’re giving CRS far more credit than they deserve. IMO, they’re not “interpreting” anything. They’re just doing what they’ve always done, which is look for a “$” somewhere on their CRS display and when they see it, say “no soup for you”. I think it’s highly unlikely that VIPS display they look at changed one iota with the implementation of this new Final Check-in option. As a result, I think it’s far more likely that any actions they take contrary to this new CBA language are being done out of ignorance and habit, not any active interpretation. If and when it comes up, we need to be firm and un-yielding and enforce the NEW language.
No, that’s not what I keep highlighting. I did once to make a different point. The NEW language I keep using that you seem to be able to ignore because it doesn’t line up with the way we(you) used to have to deviate and trumps an old restriction in a different CBA paragraph is this one:
“Once this check-in has been accomplished, the
pilot shall no longer be considered as deviating, for the purposes of subsequent delays, revisions, and all trip services.”
I was “considered as deviating” for a while...maybe 60 hours or so....but I am “no longer”. Peace.
P.S. Ask yourself this: How can anyone no longer be considered doing something they were never doing in the first place?
OK Adler,
To answer your P.S., when you deviated on the first leg, and not on the second leg, you are considered deviating until you get into position to join the second leg. If something happens on the first leg that makes it impossible for you to join the scheduled leg, you are still deviating until you get into your final position.
Now, tell me what you think would happen in my single leg DH MEM to ATL scenario. Do you think if after deviating on the one and only leg, I could show up to the gate in MEM, check in and expect CRS and the duty officer to rewrite my pairing if the scheduled DH that I deviated on got cancelled? Or, do you think that they would say, "You deviated, so you are on your own." What if I wasn't able to be in position on time, would I still be pay protected?
P.S.
The language in the CBA that you say this language trumps specifies when that language no longer applies. If this new language indeed trumps that language, why didn't they add that paragraph reference to the exemption as well? Wouldn't that have been easy?
Again, I'm simply pointing out that there is language that requires you to tell the company exactly how you are going to deviate and language that says once you do, you are on your own. In VIPS, when deviating, it asks you which leg(s) you want to deviate on. If you select both, there is language that says you are now on your own. So, IMO, its not as simple as you imply. Again, I hope you are correct, but I'm not going to tell anyone that it doesn't matter which boxes you check.
Peace to you as well, we are on the same team!