Originally Posted by Super EZ E

You're 100% correct. People don't want to pay to fly. When NK packs 180+ in a A320 good luck price matching and staying business long term. Factor in when times get tough the ULCC will grow more because price point! Fact is you sure in the hell don't want SWA anywhere near the Hawaiian market if you want to stay in business. SWA will flood inter island and suck up a lot of passengers!!

Originally Posted by FNGFO

Listen. I know you’re grasping st something, anything really, to try and hope this ends well for you, but a higher class travel experience to Hawaii on HAL is...laughable.

For one, it sucks in the back of all airliners on long legs. Hawaiian is no different. Yes, I’ve ridden many times.

For another, no one who has two brain cells to rub together is hoping to find an FA who can give them tips on local activities and food on a trip as expensive as an extended Hawaiian vacation.

And lastly, saving $100 each way per passenger (or whatever the cost will be) probably adds up to an hotel extra night on one of the islands.

No, people won’t pay extra to get a smidgeon of percieved service on HAL. The ones with truly disposable income to do so aren’t considering riding on any LCC.

SWA is transport for the masses, or at least they still play at it while largely charging legacy fares, and getting Joe and Susie Wal Mart to the islands is exactly what their mission is all about.

Going to see the mouse in Florida is many people’s dream vacation with their kids, and they cram themselves into a yellow 321 with infants in their laps by the bushel because that modicum of saved cash means that they can do an extra activity while in Orlando or squeeze in another night or two. Hawaii is really no different.

On the basis of half-a$$ed conjecture I’d say HAL is in a lot of trouble unless they radically change their model or partner with someone on the mainland to help feed them. SWA will run them into the ground once they get the inter island bit going with corny jokes and mispronounced Mahalo’s and all.