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Old 03-10-2019 | 09:01 PM
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KnockKnock
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz
C'mon KnockKnock.... You can do better. I've seen it from you....

Its apples and oranges..
We never had a chance to negotiate/re-negotiate a contract, but we all know what a good contract should look like and I am positive that if our negotiations were left to be played out, we would have ended up with a decent one.

For starters, even though we never had a contract, our QOL and Scheduling T and Cs were much better than AS's and we would have been negotiating to improve upon what was already status quo.

So, not because we didn't bring a meal to the party, (a party we didn't care for but was forced to attend mind you), does it mean that we have somehow lost the right to comment on the crappy food at the party my friend....
Biz, my beef isn’t with the complaining about the contract. Many of us complain about the contract. It’s about those that go beyond the contract and attack the pilots. It’s a ridiculous reach to accuse the Boeing pilots of causing their current dissatisfaction. I find it ironic that any pilot would come from a company that lacked many of the industry standard contract provisions justifying it by whatever means they see fit. Good scheduling, good employee/management relations, rapid upgrade etc. etc. But then turn around and hold high court over another pilot group that has by all intents and purposes done the same thing.

You feel like you got robbed of a shot at a good contract. I feel like I got robbed of a shot at a good contract. You didn’t want to come to the AS “party”. I didn’t invite you guys to come to the “party”. You feel like your QOL has taken a big hit. I feel like my QOL will take a big hit when the bidding opens up. The list goes on and on Biz... It seems we have more in common than not.

Your management put you up for sale and my management laid down the cash. This is their mess. Unfortunately, many of your compatriots don’t seem to understand this. The difference between me and them is I can acknowledge the contract I agreed to work under was inferior to many others. They can’t. They seem to be, as they would put it, “in a bubble”. They seem to have, again to borrow one of their favorite turns of phrase, “drunk the VX kool-aid”.

I’ve accepted this is the new normal and am ready to move forward but when you guy break out the soap box and preach, I call B.S.
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