Originally Posted by Bluedriver

I would doubt Joe did the speak up survey. But, I have to agree with Joe that the union does NOT seem to be aggressive about pushing for LOA improvements to Profit Sharing or other items. The union should be actively pushing out messaging about how our Profit Sharing formula is nearly dead last among our peer set, continuously.

The entire group (nearly) is disgusted with the formula and it's resulting payout, so that drum should be beat loudly. AA recently achieved Profit Sharing formula improvements OUTSIDE of section 6 negotiations due to labor unrest, we should be doing everything possible to achieve the same.

I reject ENTIRELY the notion that JB pilots should just sit and color regarding Profit Sharing simply because the pilots voted for the CBA. Most felt like it was the only/best choice given 2 terrible alternatives (yes or no). And furthermore and most of all, JB management told the union negotiating committee in ABSOLUTE NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that this was the ONLY Profit Sharing plan they would agree to. Period. So ultimately this is managements Profit Sharing plan, forced on it's pilots. Pilots (and all work groups) that I've seen all around me seem to care .002 about the company's operation lately, which is exactly how much management incentivized them to care.

The union should aggressively and very publicly be pushing for a Profit Sharing LOA.

The rest of what you said was actually very true, and many on this board would do well to read and understand it, because you are 100% correct.