Originally Posted by
PurpleToolBox
Yes, I stepped into a hornets nest.
Not senior. So you can stop that argument. I also find it unethical for those who pick up trips that they don't intend to fly, to shop it around a group of willing participants. But I don't think that happens often. The real problem is people are using Bots -- and I don't mean the two products developed by FDXers that many of our pilots have on their phones. And when they're using those bots, you aren't going to get any trip. The Bot will have an earlier time stamp than you. Do not doubt me on this.
Disagree. Previous company processed requests in seniority and junior people could change their schedule. Senior folks don't really need to do this as they're usually get what they want.
Let me rephrase that for you ... why should people who are flying carryover month after month, working extra flying for straight pay, helping the company, get paid so much while getting PNP screwing everyone else trying to change their schedule? I agree 100%.
Name calling is a great way of winning debates.
I get it, you guys don't like the OT by seniority. The current system is broken. It is why a few seem to get all the nice trips that fall into OT. It is why VIPs nearly crashes every Thursday when OT is out.
I think slowing down the process would be best for more pilots. It would give more pilots who are airborne a chance to bid because there is no fair time to release OT. Pilots are often sleeping or flying. I've flown with crewmembers who were up all night trying to swap trips when they should have been sleeping. We are our own worst enemy.
It would give folks who are commuters a chance to see if they can secure a flight or deadhead.
And it would defeat the bots.
I figured a system that respected seniority would be welcome. I am wrong. But this is FedEx ...not exactly the most unified group I've ever worked with.

I’m totally against seniority based open time pick ups. Seniority has its privileges, as it should. You get to bid monthly schedules and vacations first, bid CIC trips each month to enhance schedules, etc. I think open time should be time stamped and be awarded in order received.
I do agree with you on PNP. It was another well intentioned idea, but it’s used differently than it was envisioned. If you check out many of the more senior wolf pack schedules, they bid max carry over schedules. They will then bid a secondary line and bid min days off. After “the snap shot” is taken, they’ll proffer their trip MKU and some fool will pick it up every time. Now they have an open first week and will use their priority time to pick up great trips. They’ll do it every month.
Some aren’t concerned about some of the wolf pack because they are FOs. But, unlike OTP, PNP never expires. So, they’ll bring it with them as Captains.
I’d like to see PNP eliminated.