Originally Posted by
CGfalconHerc
Compass was created by NWA with an agreement that Compass pilots would flow up when hiring began again and furloughed NWA pilots would flow back to the left seat of a E175 when times were tough. Only a few furloughed NWA DC9 FO's flowed back after 911. After the DAL/NWA merger, all Compass pilots on the list when NWA created them were offered a flow to Delta. IIRC..some flowed without a degree..maybe 700 total? Once that was complete..DAL sold off Compass to Trans States. All Compass pilots hired after that date did not have a flow agreement.
I dont think any original Compass pilots had the rug pulled out from under them..but your buddy knows more about it than I do.
I'm glad DAL honored the flow up to mainline for those that agreed to a flow back to the left seat of the E175..even though it was negotiated by NWA before the merger.
Jmho..CG
I remember when Compass was created. ‘06-‘07 with the old ACA certificate right? I interviewed there when faced with furlough in ‘08. I ended up staying at my current airline at the time but my buddy left and is now at DAL. I thought I remembered him telling me that at the time of sale to Trans States, there were new hires who would not get the flow agreement. It sounds like from you and Bradium, he was referring to future new hires. I was under the impression he meant those already in class a those fresh out of the school house. I’ll ask him and put the issue to rest.
My other cases in point stand though. I know many a former CoEx pilot that was stripped of their flow. I know many an Eagle/Envoy pilot that got jacked around on their flow. I also know many a current XJT pilot with complaints about the way UAL has handled their CPP.
All I’m saying is the OP’s friends are not experiencing anything new to this industry. The aged old carrot of flow/CPP has bitten many a pilot in the rear and should be used as a back up at best. As someone said earlier in the thread, if you’re basing your flying on the ethics of airline management, you’d better get yourself a reliable car or good pair of walking shoes because EVERY management team has employed unethical practices. If he were to scan these boards, he’d find many a bait-n-switch story.