Originally Posted by
TillerTemptress
I would, and you can. That's nothing to do with intentional noncompliance. That's talking about rejecting a report. If a mechanic intentionally takes a shortcut on a maintenance task and it causes a major incident, he can't just ASAP it and go "whelp I'll be fine I filed an ASAP, even though I knew the correct procedure and wasn't trained on it". However I meant in this context that the flight attendants feeling pressured to fly instead of calling in sick (and I have heard of them being sick and then suddenly well after getting a call from an inflight supervisor and getting stressed about getting an MFA etc), those ones should file an ASAP and get that in front of the FAA, who are definitely not OK with any crewmember being pressured to fly when not fit for duty.
As for crew reporting it vs ASAPing it... well it goes into the same system. Biggest difference... a pilot ASAP report goes to company, ALPA and FAA. Crew report goes to ... company only. FAA can't see it, ALPA can't see it. (The FA ones go to AFA instead of course)
Ok so I just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing. The examples you are giving with the ramper and the mechanic I totally agree with you but I'm asking about something more like this:
Captain shows up to the flight, FA is sick, Captain is upset that the FA is pressured to fly sick and files an ASAP at the hotel after the flight. Hasn't the captain now accepted liability for blocking out with a sick crew member and therefore how can his ASAP be accepted? Moreover, now he would have to file a crew report and the ntsb would also have to be notified per the required report table in the FOM, right?
Btw, didn't know the crew reports were not seen by the FAA & ALPA. Good to know.