I actually really am optimistic that we will get the pay rates...and on a much shorter timeline than anyone expects. I have no insider information, but having spent 5 years at AA HDQ, I know how they manage the 3 WOs - and frankly I’m not sure that Envoy could even prevent AA from saying ‘give your pilots x’ as that’s what it seems AA offered PSA management.

Additionally, when Eric was in the DFW crew room Thursday - he made it clear that discussions this week were trilateral, between AA, ENY MEC and ENY mgmt.