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Old 04-23-2019, 08:22 AM
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ReadyRsv
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
I don’t disagree. That still doesn’t level the playing field much though. If you could somehow get the major airline unions to help it MIGHT be different, but they seem to not be interested, heck, the ULCCs don’t even look after their own new FOs. $57 an hour at Spirit, $58 at Frontier? $56 at Allegiant and $48 at Sun Country? For that matter, Hawaiian, a nominal legacy, $36??? YGBSM! You have to take a pay cut to move from a regional FO to a major? He//, that’s a pay cut for most second year FOs any more.

Until ALL airline pilots work to help the WHOLE profession rather than just letting the junior people get screwed, I don’t think the unions will ever be strong enough to be really effective, certainly not at the regional level.
You are aware that second year pay at Frontier is 108 and captain rates start at $200 an hour, right? And that ALPA just got them a contract with an average of >50% pay increases plus a huge signing bonus?

If you are concerned about ALL pilots helping other pilots, as ALPA does (and will do for free when you join because ALPA doesn’t collect dues until a contract is signed) why are you advocating doing nothing for the industry?

Complaining that ALPA doesn’t help “everyone” while being the largest non union pilot group, who has in their history never helped another group does not make much sense. This from a former SkyWester.
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