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Old 04-23-2019, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv View Post
You are aware that second year pay at Frontier is 108 and captain rates start at $200 an hour, right? And that ALPA just got them a contract with an average of >50% pay increases plus a huge signing bonus?

If you are concerned about ALL pilots helping other pilots, as ALPA does (and will do for free when you join because ALPA doesn’t collect dues until a contract is signed) why are you advocating doing nothing for the industry?

Complaining that ALPA doesn’t help “everyone” while being the largest non union pilot group, who has in their history never helped another group does not make much sense. This from a former SkyWester.
Can't compare majors to regionals. NK is competing with legacies... getting a pay raise that gets them closer to (but still below) their competitors is not a real stretch in this climate.

Regionals compete with other regionals. Pay is determined by market forces (recruiting and attrition) far more than by any union efforts. The business model keeps pay at the bottom of the market, and that obviously varies by market conditions. If you're thinking of making a career at a regional, and you're young, you might be surprised what happens to regional pay when the retirement bubble is in the rear view mirror and there are plenty of hungry noobs willing to sell their souls for turbine time and a shot at the bigs.

Not saying alpa would be a bad idea at SKW, just that you need to manage your expectations. ALPA is a mainline union, and mainline pilots have a vested interest in low-cost feed.
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