Originally Posted by
BobZ
Sure thing. Just because u think thats the way it happened doesnt mean it did.
Tide turned? Uhh must be a nordic history book ur getting that bad info from. U suppose the french were gona stopgap the soviets at the border? Instead of just eastern europe more likely all western europe nordic included would hav been included in the soviet bloc.
Absent the US presence and led invasion in western france the soviets would hav been compelled to advance through western europe to defeat the nazi forces.
Btw....who do you think was keeping the soviets supplied in the fight on the eastetn front?
The second neutral state players status did not suit the nazi or soviets it would have been all over.
Or were you sleeping when russia recently occuopied crimea?
The only nordic model i can apply to ww2 is while the world burned down around them they were apparently too busy smoking fish and making chewy candy ones to bother with getting involved.
Umm no, not a Nordic history book, but the opinion of the majority of American, Canadian, British, French, German and Russian historians. As far as keeping the Soviets supplied on the eastern front, that would be both the United States AND the United Kingdom and the OVERWHELMING majority of U.S. aid (97.9%) came after 1942, after the turning points of 1941.
And while the Germans were marching across Europe for two and a half years, and the Japanese were marching across much of Asia and the Pacific during that same time period, the U.S. sat by and watched, not bothering to get involved.
I am interested in how you draw the conclusion that the Soviets needed to be supplied in order to defend their front lines, but at the same time would have had the strength and manpower to then run roughshod all over Europe after sustaining massive casualties, as in around 27 million dead.
Of course none of this resolves the claim that the Nordic model would not be possible without U.S. military aid. Sweden sat directly on the front lines of the Cold War, not a member of NATO, and developed a robust home grown defense industry and weapons systems without the aid of the United States and NATO, while at the same time experiencing greater average GDP growth than the United States while simultaneously developing and maintaining the "Nordic Model".