/\ This (pointing to dera's post), I agree with a lot of. I've said since day one that CA rates are out of wack here, even while I was receiving the benefit of bonuses. When the company started the forced upgrades, it just reinforced my stance. If the pay was structured correctly, there would be no need for force upgrades.

That said, with the delay in retention bonus payment, second year FO pay is not as rosy as being depicted. I suppose if you can avoid upgrade for the full 3rd year in full it get's close the same but that's where it ends before it drops off again... again, if you can avoid upgrade. Why should we be avoiding upgrade???