Originally Posted by BunkerF16

If you don't think we were gaining significant momentum leading up to the AIP being agreed to, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe too much time in MCO schoolhouse? Were you at the picket in Jan in freezing weather? Ask the guys in BOS how angry the ground control supervisor was at JB aircraft as we taxied at safe speeds, and followed SOP. It had taken a while, but there was palpable galvanization of the pilot group, and it was getting better by the day.


You have to remember, the communication that was coming out of the MEC for a long time was that negotiations were progressing nicely. Nothing to see here. Then bam. They weren't. When that communication turned, guys started coming on board more and more. The investors were angry and JB felt the pressure.


Not everybody has the ability to physically attend meetings. That's not an indication of involvement or unity. Hundreds joined P2P. Many would listen to conference calls. Thousands read the MEC emails. Pilots were involved.


You're right. The deal passed overwhelmingly. It always was going to. I always said the 2 slices of swiss cheese was the NC and the MEC. The AIP should never have passed. Once it did, it was a done deal.


My tough talk on this forum is zero indication how I am at work. Love the guys I fly with. I love my job. We get paid a lot of money to do something I love. No complaints. That doesn't mean I won't stop fighting for what I believe we as a pilot group deserves. I'm not angry, just disappointed and hope we've learned from our mistakes and do better next time. We've all earned it.