Originally Posted by highfarfast

I've pointed this out in the past here regarding this 'minimum 20%' and I've said in the past it's still a concessionary rate. Endeavor's rates are more like 25% more AND they were given in the fall of 2017 AND those rates came with better work rules (reserve and commuter benefits).

Given the market is even more favorable to pilots now than then, I think we should be looking for something like pay rates +25%+something. What that "+something" is and whether it's enough, I'll wait and see what the union comes to us with. But simply adding 20% pay is definitely NOT enough.