They had their chance to get it and more. I was at CCAIR when they bought us. We had duty rigs, trip gaurantees, the whole shebang. 70K flying a Dash 8. Ornstein offered us the first ERJ's if we would give up our work rules and take pay cuts! Our MEC and Mesa's MEC agreed not to whipsaw each other and bring their contract up to ours. I left before it happened, but Mesa's pilots screwed the CCAIR guys and left them hanging. They deserve everything their getting. Sorry, didn't mean to change the original subject.