Envoy’s “actual” flow is just under 8.5 years so not exactly. If the recruiters want to say that Envoy has the industry leading first year pay due to sign on bonuses, or industry leading flow for pilots hires in 2016 then that’s fine with me. Have at it. The problem is when they cut out all the asterisks and say “industry leading pay and flow,” then they are being misleading to the average new hire that doesn’t know that current flow is not industry leading, nor will their own flow if they started today. And after year one they will be getting close to the lowest pay in the industry.