Originally Posted by
DarinFred
Dude, seriously? How long have you been here at AA? This company is operating off our backs. The pilot contract from 5 years ago is yet to be fully implemented. The company blatantly walks over us. The management despises us. Stop being a shill for them.
$12B in stock buy backs. They are mortgaging off our future and using our productivity to fill the pockets of their Wall Street friends. All the while working off bankruptcy contracts. Time for them to pay up or suffer the consequences.
First that $12b is shareholder money not yours. Labor doesn't own the company.
Most of the items not implemented we don't actually want implemented, such as electronic notification. We make good wages, well above most pilots not only worldwide but also in the US. Delta has better overall compensation right now due to their profit sharing. So who cares? A pilot group or two makes more than us. I really don't care.
As for stepping over us, I have actually not seen that at all. I'm sure it happens occasionally but for the vast majority of cases I have had excellent and positive experiences with chiefs and scheduling. Even the hotels desk. A few weeks ago we had an unscheduled overnight in IAH, we walked to the desk and saw a couple dozen UAL crewmembers looking for rooms, meanwhile we were assigned some within three minutes.
I would much rather have a viable company that thinks long term than one that becomes the old US Air, burdened with contracts it cannot afford to pay and is rife with waste.
How many US Airways guys want a repeat of their careers? How many TWA guys want a repeat? How many post 2000 AA pilots want a repeat? Keep in mind SWA grew like gang busters back then while AA and US lost market share and jobs.
AA had an amazing run which many forget was brought on by the B scale. They were the SWA of the 80's. Piedmont was going nuts under Bethune until...US Air bought them. Bethune went to CAL and they too did extremely well with their lower labor costs. AWA had a similar run in the 90's, also due to lower labor cost advantages.
Delta has been nonunion and while they paid their pilots they didn't have nearly the same cost structure other carriers did due to non-union employees offering flexibility. Yet look here, at how many still want our ground handlers to make $70k/yr to move bags.
In 2010 or so a US Airways ground handler came up to the cockpit and was talking about their "stolen" pensions". He didn't miss a beat. He used that as motivation to get off his ass and put his money to work for him. He was accumulating rental homes to replace his pension, something he could've done long ago and been retired by then.
Most guys here are fat dumb and happy and feel entitled to more. No one owes us anything.
I totally agree it's BS upper management gets untouchable pensions and RSUs. But we are not upper management. Someone who is at a VP level has a lot of stress and pressure on their job to perform. Believe it or not we are actually paid more than most of them anyway. Hands down we are some of the highest paid employees at the company, at least from the director side down.
Oh and BTW, Parker and Isom have lost tens of millions on their stock personally. Meanwhile our wages have not gone down.
My biggest beef with AA management is their lack of focus on our customers. They treat the airline as public transportation with little regard for branding. Delta figured it out. Spirit owns it's brand - cheap transportation from A to B. What is AA? Nothing special. If we aren't careful we will be the next US Air.