Originally Posted by
John Carr
Soooo, on the mid term ESOP when the 50 seat RJ's were allowed and further proliferation on C2000 never happened?
CAL agreeing on jet gage but NOTHING related to turbprop never happened? At least in that case, thank god the Q400 was such a POS.
United entered C2000 negotiations with one of the tightest scope clauses in the industry at 65, 50 seat RJs. Yes, United did have the Air Wisconsin BAE146 agreement with tail number restrictions. Keep in mind Delta allowed an unlimited number of 70 seat aircraft to be operated.
Under the UAL C2000 agreement, United was allowed to increase the number of small RJs up to 150 with a one to one turboprop exchange. They were to further increase the numbers only if the mainline airframes grew over a certain metric. Kinda hard to maintain the line when the Delta has already given away the barn.
So how did we go from the rather small amount described above to a fleet of approximately 600 aircraft including 255 70/76 seat jets? If you're about to say that we gladly approved of UAL's C2003, I'd think twice. Nothing like being told to essentially accept United's terms or Wedoff will impose worse. Toss in Whiteferg's E170 giveaway and there you have it.