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Old 06-02-2019 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The same holding company, but the parent holding company does exert their influence. But there are different contracts with different terms that are at least to some degree enforceable. But there’s more to it than that.

Regionals per se are sort of labile. I often find myself reminding people that until ten years ago, Compass was a Delta wholly owned.

The plain fact if the matter is that all regionals are expendable. The list of regional airlines (or even major airlines) that have at least briefly been THE PLACE TO BE and then subsequently gone bankrupt is a long one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States

And the number of people who - at least at the regional level - have lost seniority and had to start over again somewhere else is legion. At the major airline level it’s usually a merger and the two pilot unions get to spend a few contentious years dealing with the seniority list integration. The bad feelings between the Virgin America and the Alaska pilots still lingers.

There basically are two philosophies and I personally subscribe to the minority view.

The majority view is to go somewhere you believe you would be willing to spend ten years if you got stuck there. That’s generally considered to be Skywest, Republic, or one of the wholly owneds.

Personally, I believe things are too unpredictable for that. Any of these can go bankrupt just as easily as anyone else. A REAL bankruptcy, or just a strategic one like Republic did to be able to get out if their fifty seater flying. Corporations have all learned how to play bankruptcy courts to their own advantage and - for airlines - they can manipulate the RLA to an even greater degree. And they’ll furlough you in a heartbeat if it serves their purpose.

My philosophy is to do whatever you can to avoid being stuck for ten years in a regional. That means chasing 121 flying hours in general and TPIC in particular, so my plan is to go where there is lots of flying, relatively short reserve times, and relatively quick upgrade. That detracts from quality of life at a regional generally, but optimizes the process of getting through quickly, which with the peak of the major airline hiring wave hitting in three or four years, I would really like to do.

YMMV, however. Pay your penny and take your pick.

What would I do? Go with Compass, ride that horse until it’s obvious there are better short term opportunities and then jump to them. If a year from now you wind up having been at your base of choice for a year, and Compass loses flying, take your type rating and your 750 hours and go be a near dec somewhere else, whatever it takes.

Compass is a better regional than most, at least in the short term, but a good regional isn’t the long term goal. Don’t be brand loyal out of some misplaced ideal of loyalty to the regional. Everyone of them will drop you like the proverbial hot rock if it suits their purpose. Once you’ve fulfilled your legal obligation to them, do whatever’s best for you.

Thank you. I am a return to aviation career changer - ratings / degree 20+ years ago and didn't chase the career because of everything you said. Having that perspective and seeing regional conditions better than I have ever known - its now time for me to interview with the possible options that suits me. Compass is top of list even though a Den might be better option than PHX (know i will be reserve at LAX/Sea for a bit).

I appreciate the constructive information that aligns with what I know.
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