Originally Posted by
skyemiles2
I think what dera is trying to say is that no one takes any of you seriously due to the sheer amount of high-drama screeching on this forum.
If you guys were able to dial it back and provide rational, factual responses instead of just fantastical whining, calling each other ball-washers, and showing that many of you don’t have the faintest understanding of how unions work, people may actually listen to what you have to say.
I, for one, don’t have the patience to wade through it. I’ve got multiple CJOs and instead of the actual discussions I find elsewhere, the tone of this place is such a damned mess that it’s all just noise and you come across as a vocal minority of agitators in a vacuum.
Have some real conversations instead of just egging each other on. Then you may see the results you want.
I think the life cycle of an envoy employee goes something like this. New hire eager to fly and give the company the benefit of the doubt because hope exists. A fee years in and a few years of reserve abuse turns into a seething hatred for this company because your pay and QOL is so so far behind your peers who haven't sat reserve except for maybe a few months. A few years go and seniority builds and you are off reserve, still very far behind peers but hey at least it isn't reserve so you get some indifference. Then you flow and AA has to help rid you of the Envoy beating mentality and you slowly begin to forget, but that one time you got junior manned into a 30 hour overnight in ALO and missed your daughters birthday will never leave you.