Originally Posted by
moon
That junior man comment was kinda made in jest, yes other regionals are crappy I'll give you that and yes reserve is a necessity at an airline. Where the differences come in is where envoy lacks behind many peers. Start with reserve. 8 hour airport standby shifts with no limit on how many a month or how many in a row envoy has to be the worst they can even call in as many as they want during "OSO" as long as there are enough recliners. The reserve system is required yes, but at any given time Envoy has well over 25% of the pilot group on reserve because heaven forbid someone has a 15 minute connection. Then There's the commuting to reserve while other regionals have set in their contract commutable first days and contractual mechanisms for early release on last day. Envoy pre assigns 4 am RAP and it's up to whatever scheduler you get on the phone on your last day if they are going to release you or not.
As far as inefficient schedules go. Envoy gets the last pick of the flight file for American in each of it's bases so that leads us to get the leftovers that skywest or republic or whoever don't want. So we end up with a lot of short turns making it hard to build the most efficient schedules. That'd be fine if we had duty rigs, but we don't so we can spend 30 hours somewhere and make only per diem for that day.
And then there's the pay which as you said is inexcusable.
There's other things but I think these highlight a lot of what people have issues with. Can someone make envoy work for them? Sure, but I bet they could make other regionals work better.
I know plenty of people at OO. They have some ridiculous schedules as well, but those generally improve with seniority.
The duty rig thing is not good. That’s a legitimate black mark.
Current job has 13-hour airport shifts and NO recliners.
Can you go into the release more on the last day? Shouldn’t you be done at noon after an 8-hour reserve shift? As in, they’re trying to see if they need to extend you for tomorrow so they won’t let you go home, or are you talking about the time left on the clock when they can no longer use you when you want to leave?
What’s the reality with all of the reserve proffering nonsense they talk about?