Originally Posted by
dera
I've used that qualifier so many times I've lost count already.
That's not the theme. The theme is that Envoy CAN be good for you. I try only to comment when someone posts garbage like "we have the WORST <insert whatever you want here>", painting the whole airline with the same brush. I have no problem if someone complains about the airline not being a fit for their personal situation. But claiming the airline is a dumpster fire because of it is just plain wrong.
Yeah Envoy can be good for someone. When I came on, Envoy was the best choice in my situation so it was certainly good for me and I’m not going to complain about my time here other that to just state how it’s been and what I expect it to be. Honestly, my experience, with a few notable exceptions has been good. But to say that everyone hired today will have a good experience because I did is so dishonest it’s ridiculous and why you have such a ridiculously difficult time putting yourself in other’s shoes is bewildering. Times and circumstances have chanced since I was a new hire. And I can still say there are still circumstances which someone will be best at Envoy... but they aren’t normal circumstances.
Anyone coming on today should know that not only can the be relegated to the waisted career land people are calling the 145, but also that even if they do get the 175, our contract... and Envoy’s contract with AAG that involves last pick of the scraps... means that they have little protection having meaningful QOL and pay.
You want pay and QOL and think you need flow... PLEASE, do yourself a favor and go to PSA. Don’t need flow (YOU DON’T), go to Endeavor, Republic, or Skywest. Have to wait on a class for them? Come here while you wait, but don’t spend your bonus. Then go.