Originally Posted by
Firefighterpilo
I am not trying to be rude but I have to be blunt. You are missing the forest for the trees. No one here has said that they represent envoy on social media. In fact they are claiming the opposite. They are saying because they would tell things how they really are and not what management portrays, Envoy has a lot to lose if all the potential prospects knew how envoy really treated pilots not the white wash version Swayne portrays. No one here I can assure you has any desire to represent envoy on social media. Pilot here have to gripes with what Swayne is doing. The first is he is using his online following to further managements agenda and therefore hurt his fellow pilots. Second he is low time young guy with little experience and rather most of us like it not he is representing all of us to the masses who don’t know better. .
I am not even discussing whether or not pilots should or shouldn't dislike the videos. My statements have been simple. I have started by saying that personally attacking people anonymously and in public is unprofessional, not to mention cowardly. The fact that anyone's sexuality has been brought into this thread shows just how embarrassing the conduct has been so far. Do you disagree?
Then, I responded to posts that attacked someone for having company permission to use their brand in social media, while they don't have that same permission. I challenged you to put yourself in Envoy's shoes and understand what a financial risk it would be to allow their brand to be represented by a group of people who have no problem publicly calling people "disgusting" because of their sexual preference. You are not anonymous. Envoy management knows you are Envoy pilots and can read these posts along with the general public. Why should they trust anyone here with their brand without vetting them first? There shouldn't be any complaints here about being forbidden from representing Envoy in social media, because there is proof here that Envoy pilots at large can't be trusted.
Finally, I understand how it looks that Envoy specifically allows certain posts that don't portray it in a negative light, and how a logo can be used as subliminal advertising even without direct "recruiting". If you disagree with the videos and/or their timing, there are certain channels to be used to have your concerns addressed professionally. I wonder how many of you have talked to your reps, or to the person himself, before making personal attacks here from behind your screen name...?