Originally Posted by
poopplop
I am not even discussing whether or not pilots should or shouldn't dislike the videos. My statements have been simple. I have started by saying that personally attacking people anonymously and in public is unprofessional, not to mention cowardly. The fact that anyone's sexuality has been brought into this thread shows just how embarrassing the conduct has been so far. Do you disagree?
Then, I responded to posts that attacked someone for having company permission to use their brand in social media, while they don't have that same permission. I challenged you to put yourself in Envoy's shoes and understand what a financial risk it would be to allow their brand to be represented by a group of people who have no problem publicly calling people "disgusting" because of their sexual preference. You are not anonymous. Envoy management knows you are Envoy pilots and can read these posts along with the general public. Why should they trust anyone here with their brand without vetting them first? There shouldn't be any complaints here about being forbidden from representing Envoy in social media, because there is proof here that Envoy pilots at large can't be trusted.
Finally, I understand how it looks that Envoy specifically allows certain posts that don't portray it in a negative light, and how a logo can be used as subliminal advertising even without direct "recruiting". If you disagree with the videos and/or their timing, there are certain channels to be used to have your concerns addressed professionally. I wonder how many of you have talked to your reps, or to the person himself, before making personal attacks here from behind your screen name...?
Last post for the night. Do you realize how good you divert conversations? You my friend are a professional. None of the points you keep spouting, anyone here is debating. It is like if we are arguing the color of a tree and you keep interjecting the average weight of a bark beetle. They are not related points nor important to the argument. Nowhere has anyone argued your above points. You are clearly “triggered” and I am sleepy. At this point in life I honestly don’t care that his videos hurt his fellow pilots it has zero effect on me. I DID want to share with the new pilots in the industry reasons why Swayn’s Videos are no longer harmless, and directly effecting the work conditions at Envoy. What the new pilots do with my humble opinion is of no consequence to me. They can throw it in the trash if they choose, but is very important they hear it so they can form their own informed opinion on the matter. Either way I have a family to attend to. I hope you are nothing but successful and accomplished in your chosen profession. Take a few deep breaths you will learn life is to short to always tie you emotions up in an argument.