He's from like Germany or some nor did he even sign any non-disclosures lol. At these NACU conferences everyone shares everyones info right or wrong its a learning experience. These boards are nothing in comparison. You want to hear what they share about how to work you guys for less lol. Get into one of those. Oh well best of luck and unless you know if someone signed any agreement or was doing it as a favor just pipe down and keep getting abused lol