Oh boy, this is about to get ugly.

I'll say that the orders are definitely real, and the aircraft are coming. Obviously they could get canceled or delayed at any time, but until that happens, they are coming.

There are many industry following news publications that closely follow and track orders. If they ever cancel or delay orders, we will know it. They can't secretly cancel or delay.

I believe that Indigo and Frontier have every intention of growing us as much as they possibly can. That's business 101. Anyone who comments below that this is all smoke and mirrors and the growth plans aren't real, clearly has virtually no understanding of how businesses work. The stock market is obsessed with growth. Every company wants to be as big as possible. The larger the fleet, the larger the profit potential.

Pilots are inherently negative and im sure we will see much doubt and negatively in this thread, but the truth is, profits are made larger by larger companies. Why do you think Southwest makes Billions while we make Millions? Its fleet size.

Our growth plans are large, but it will take a lot of time. If we grow from 1500 pilots to 3000 pilots by 2024, that's only 300 pilots a year growth, which is good but it's not exactly explosive. And to those who say the growth just hasn't happened, you are fooling yourself. Under Indigo we have grown from 600 pilots to nearly 1500. And on top of that, the number of passenger seats has increased substantially. Swapping 319s to 321s is huge growth to the airline even if it has no effect on pilot numbers.

As far as where growth occurs, I don't think they have any idea. I don't think they have any idea where they will fly the XLRs. And even if they do, they sure as hell aren't going to tell anyone! Especially not us.

I will say though that Biffle told us once that in a perfect world, we would have 2 domiciles in each time zone, 1 North and 1 South for 8 total bases.