Originally Posted by
NewGuy01
It’s amazing how fast people become accustomed to 50% or greater seniority in base.
Nearly every one of my trips has a segment in the WOCL. If I bid for certain days off it just gets worse.
At 4 years in you have experienced the most rapid seniority movement in the last 20 years at AS. A crew grabbed an airplane from us and cringed when we told them we wouldn’t get any BBQ in town because our van was at 4:30am. 2:30am Seattle time... The FO had probably missed that trip mix altogether because of pure, dumb luck.
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What’s your point? Are you going to bid all nighters when your seniority allows you to avoid them so you can continue to be “one with the new hires”? I speak from my personal experience here, you speak from yours. There is no black and white. My point is that, YES, as a new employee, a yr to maybe 2 now, you can plan on flying your share of red eyes. I did it, you’re doing it, any new hire can expect it. After that, you can avoid them if you want to. I don’t know too much about UPS but can you avoid flying all night within a couple years of being there? I have a buddy there that’s pretty jr. he seems to like it and hasn’t said too much about the WOCL flying. If the OP wants to fly international widebody stuff, UPS seems like a great route to take. I also know a guy that chose to stay at AS instead of going to his class at FedEx because he didn’t want to fly all night for a large chunk of his career. He too is pretty happy with his lot in life. Everybody lives their own lives my friend.