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Old 07-13-2019, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7 View Post
If you can't hold holidays off and that's your priority bid somewhere where you can get it off ofr with the movement we are having stay in your seat for a year or two.
And ok, us junior pilots out West should all commute transcon NYC NB so we can spend holidays with our children. How dare we consider reducing 2x-->1.5x pay on holidays for the traditionally empty nester/no kid crowd who skew the RSV avail formula yet fully desire to work. The "families who want Mommy/Daddy home" crowd need to stop selfishly stagnating on the bottom of lists and take advantage of our industry leading base changing AE process, right?

Originally Posted by Trip7 View Post
We have much bigger fish to fry like health insurance, Deadheading..
Why is Deadheading more priority than Holidays? Using your logic, if you don't like DHs, bid to a category/base where your seniority allows you to avoid DHs. Let's not waste capital on DHs, when we need to focus on Holiday pay.

Originally Posted by Trip7 View Post
I'm against holiday pay because of the Greenslip system. We have much bigger fish to fry...then worrying about holidays where alot of pilots are already being paid 200%.
I mean, what's the point of Holidays anyway? Why do most industries give the day off? Or those who cannot, pay at a premium? Answer: because it's understood that it's important to respect spending time with loved ones over religious/national dates of significance. Those who must work get paid a premium because they should be home, and it's treated like overtime. Why then, is our PWA treated as if Holidays are meaningless for pilots and their families? And further, why should we retain language that incentivizes those who don't care to bid it off, while those who do care can be forced to work, and without any premium. The current spirit of holiday policy is upside down. There are only a few days a year that most people universally want off, but let's craft policy surrounding these days to ensure those who want it off are less able to do so? The PWA should be ammended to respect those who value their time on holidays, just like our peers in nearly every job field.

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