Holiday pay for a pilot is one of the very last things, under free shoe shines, that I'd place on an ask list. But if he wants try to convince pilots that its worth more, what does it matter to you? You think anyone is convinced we NEED holiday pay? Common.

I don't know how much it makes sense to increase the pay rates when theres a lot of soft pay that could use some work. Everyones W2s would still jump up and your time would be valued a lot higher, possibly get some more days off.

The dal pwa is for us, lets make sure this thing is robust, and get the most value, not try to set any industry bars either. I'm tired of hearing about pay rates on my 21 hour 4 day that would be worth 27 at some regionals. That might mean an extra day off or two with the same pay. If delta management is gonna try to turn us into 80-85 hours or bust in all categories lets make sure that the trip value counters their tactic.