Originally Posted by
ShyGuy
There’s a large difference in reporting for a 5.5-6hr red eye, many of which leave between 830-1030pm and land by 5-7am east coast time. You have the entire day to prep for it. Versus doing PIA-RFD-BHM and then try a half ass sleep attempt for 2 hrs on a 3.5 hr sit, before flying to BHM. If I had to choose, I’d take that one continuous flight. In west coast time, you takeoff 8-30-1030pm and land 2-4am (PST) and hit the bed in the hotel.
Your math doesn’t check out.
Cargo pilots report at 530pm west coast or 830pm east coast. They got 15 hours of rest before that.
Pax pilots report at 9pm West Coast, (east coast is impossible) with a minimum of 14 hours of rest, possibly more since they arrived the day before.
Cargo pilots brief 1.0, fly 2.5, nap 2.0, brief 1.0, fly 2.5 and land east coast 530am. (230PST)
Pax pilots brief 1.0, fly 6.0 land east coast 7am. (4AM PST)
Crappiest time to be awake has got to be 2am to 5am. With cargo pilots taking a nap thru the majority of it, while pax pilots fly thru it. Both types of pilots get decent rest before, if not identical.
Originally Posted by
ShyGuy
You’re headed for the hotel at the same time some of these guys are in their sleep pods during a sort before flying one more leg.
I think you’re mixing up the day flyers that are departing the airport at 5-6am with the guys are already sleeping in their hotel rooms before the pax redeyes even started their descent. As proven in the above rough calculations.
Originally Posted by
ShyGuy
And FAR 117 rest rules, 10 hr layover with min 8 hr guarantee behind door, and ability to refuse an FDP extension. Night cargo flying is fatigue inducing and ages you more than a regular good old domestic day trip.
You think cargo pilots get only 8 hours behind the door? Explain that logic. Once again, use the above calculations, arrive at 4-5am, 8 hours would be a 12-1pm departure? And passenger pilots are the only ones allowed to refuse trips?
Sounds like you’re just digging for excuses to defend your decision more than using facts.
No offense.