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Old 07-16-2019 | 11:33 AM
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coryk
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
There are a lot of pilots at UPS that can't stand sitting the night sort, either.

Yes, many hub sort trips have 8-11 hours of duty with 2 or 3 legs, and some of them, especially the one coast-SDF-other coast duty periods, don't have much of a rest opportunity in the sort.

While practically impossible to avoid sitting the sort if you're junior, once you have a little seniority you can bid day flying, international, etc. There's quite a bit of schedule variety available to someone once off their initial 18 month seat lock, and sometimes even within it on their original fleet.

Express cargo ain't for everybody...but it also isn't the utterly body-destroying, life-shortening death march some make it out to be. I've found, on average, night sort trips give me more opportunity to exercise than day trips with the same basic sleep opportunity.

Our vacation policy makes it easy to take 2 weeks of vacation and turn it into 4, 6, even 8 weeks off depending on bidding strategy. If you don't mind giving up some pay, one-week vacation slide can give you the same length of time off via conflict drops. All that is to say things are available to help pilots physically recover from the uncontested toll WOCL flying takes on the body over accumulated time.

That is not to say one employer is outright 'better' than the other, only 'better' for a given individual and their own wants/needs/desires.
I'm a FedEx guy and this info is really accurate. Night's aren't for everyone, but most of us make it work when we have to do it. You learn how to properly adjust your body and get adequate sleep beforehand, more so than when I flew for the pax airlines (regional and then UAL).

The great thing about UPS/FDX is our vacation policy and getting large chunks of time off. I had June and August vacations this year. Flying 5 days in June, all daytime line in July, and 7 days in August (all daytime). I haven't done a "night hub turn" since April. 2 yrs on property, 757 (which generally has the worst schedules). Also haven't done a "east coast to west coast 3 leg all nighter" like ShyGuy seems to think we all do....

My best friend flies for Alaska out of LAX and does turns from SNA to SEA and back. Or goes to Maui. That's pretty sweet too....
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