Originally Posted by Pedro4President

There is so much to unravel with this 2016 vs 2019 comparison. Here’s the crux if you came here getting the HUGE bonuses then you have no room to complain about pay.

Company forces concession on pilots.
Pilots say no
Company takes away planes and bases down grades CAs to FOs
Pilots take concession with a little bonus and new flow.
Pilots leave Envoy
Company offers FO bonus money to get pilots to stay.
Pilots still leave.
Company needs pilots so it hangs out a nice bonus for NH.
NH come running right into the same 💩 that’s always been.

The only thing that got better for pilots on property was stagnation started to give way which yes was a positive. But hey you have movement now and are wanting stagnation. Crazy.

You came here knowing the company doesn’t care about to once you are here. You saw what the pilots in property got when you got you massive bonuses. You made more on day one then most of those guys made their first year. You have no room to complain because you took the bait the company used to fill seats in the plane knowing the guy sitting to your left got screwed.

Final note: Come one come all you aren’t the reason the company hasn’t offered pay rates. When pilots start leaving Envoy at rates back then is the only time you will see pay rates increase. It has little to nothing to do with NH. I welcomed the 2014 pilots all the way through the 2019 pilots and I don’t fault anyone for someone here. I came here in 2013 when this place was the worst option next to MESA. I’m thankful those guys didn’t give me grief for coming here.