Originally Posted by
jamesholzhauer
It’s not min guarantee for training (80 hours, covered by 4.A.3) and min flying guarantee for a lineholder isn’t really applicable. And while 70 hours is min guarantee...actual hours worked is much higher, even on a 4/hr a day credit for training basis. My point is 70 is an arbitrary number made up by the company using an arbitrary number from somewhere else in the CBA and applying it to new hire training. And $28.57 isn’t a published pay rate anywhere. So both the rate and the credit hours are just made up by the company and not even in the CBA. They get around it because pilot trainees aren’t “pilots” in the CBA definitions. I wouldn’t spend negotiating capital on 6 weeks worth of pay for new hires, since JB does pay for all uniforms and “lodge”ing, and compared to peers it’s about in line. But when calculated out, the effective pay rate in training is about $13/hr for new hires, governed by a policy that doesn’t exist in the CBA.
You’re right. New hires are not covered by our contract. Until they qualify, they are First Officer Candidates.
I am not arguing that new hire training pay is sufficient. The OP was trying to understand where they got 70 hours.