Originally Posted by
captive apple
The FDP CMD does not show your times with an automatic extension before being extended. Our website also tracks 117 for us. You should keep doing your own calculations but to say you are on your own is really false. You have an amazing amount of resources at you finger tips including the people who are tracking your situation from a computer when your times go critical. You can also call or msg them anytime in advance and they will look at your situation with you.
117 is about fatigue and rest rules, not work rules. If you figure that out and it will be obvious you need to call in unless we negotiate something into our PPM.
You're correct. It doesn't add the extension in the FDP command before it's required. If your pairing is delayed enough to the point where it is required, it will be added into the ACARS
command without it being communicated. I understand that I have resources available, but the only thing they can do is tell me to call out fatigued.
The conversation essentially goes something like this. "You can still get to your destination with 45 minutes left on your extension....are you saying you're unwilling to work the flight?...you'll have to call out fatigued, I'll transfer you to crew support so they can do that for you..."
I don't want to call fatigue. I just don't want to extend
Why should we need to write something in our PPM. It's clearly written in the FAR's