Originally Posted by
EFBprobs
I work for SkyWest. Part 117 extensions are mandatory here. The only way to know if you're going into an extension is a manual calculation of table B. There is no discussion with dispatch or management when extending. The FDP ACARS tool tells you how much time you have left with the extension included automatically.
If you don't want to take the extension you have to call out fatigued, have to fill out a lengthy report, and may or may not get paid.
Is this the way it is everywhere?
Apparently the SLC FSDO backs the company up on this practice.
Go in the FAA general counsel webpage and download the 117 extension interpretations. They supersede any local FSDO or POI.
There is one (of many) that specifically states an extension must be affirmatively agreed to on a case by case basis by the pilot and the certificate holder.
IIRC, It specifically states that automatic extensions are a no no. It does authorize signing the release to be consent proof for extensions up to 30 minutes, but you still have to consent, and consent can’t be given before the need for an extension is even known.
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...tions/Part117/