Wish I had an answer for you on that. Free thinking is frowned upon by both camps here. It's very much a, "if you're not with us (on everything), you're against us", mentality. We get put into categories. Maybe it's easier to classify the group than to actually understand it.

For me, I recognize both the good and the bad. I acknowledge what needs fixing and what works. I understand that what works for some doesn't work for others. I hope to move towards a well rounded contract that satisfies both paries but...world peace right...

We have too many pilots that are firmly stuck in their extreme views of it's either the greatest or the worst airline that ever existed and unless you mirror their exact sentiments, you're opinions/perspectives are flame bait.

Trying to have a discussion on the topic here is as bad a any rightwing/leftwing political debate. No minds are being changed.